It's not normal for people to be in prison for doing politics. That's what the Flemish minister-president said today about the situation of nine Catalan politicians currently in pre-trial jail. The Catalan president, Quim Torra, and his Flemish counterpart, Geert Bourgeois, met today in Barcelona – and both rejected the rebellion charges against Catalan officials. In our show today we'll find out how the meeting unfolded. And we'll also give you the latest on an attack on a photojournalist in the city's streets.